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In this episode, Joivan & Percelle talk to podcaster and author Emma Gannon and Abigail Bergstrom, head of publishing at Gleam Futures about how they got here. From Emma quitting her job to carve out an online career to what Abigail looks for when seeking out new talent.

Throughout the series Joivan and Percelle will be talking to people who have made their own success and taken their ideas from bedroom to boardroom. Guests include comedy writer/performer Kayode Ewumi, entrepreneur Tara Button, BAFTA nominated producer Elhum Shakerifar and comedian Mo Gilligan. This podcast is created in association with Radio 1鈥檚 Academy. Discover more at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/academy